Sunday, May 31, 2015

From Ferdinand Meyer

Morning Rick:

Would you be kind enough to post the Sacramento Flyer on Western Bitters News? We are getting a number of table requests and they are not available until 1 week before the Chattanooga National per policy. Thanks so much. See you soon!

Ferdinand (and Coco)

 

 
 ( Coco is Ferdinand's incredible companion. An awesome dog!) 
 
 

Tuesday, May 19, 2015

The Santa Rosa Show

Don't Forget the Santa Rosa Show this coming Weekend!
 
 

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

"One of these things is not like the other" Part II

Here is a couple of Greenies from the Vault

Monday, May 11, 2015

"One of these things is not like the other"

 I have always liked the early western Jamaica Gingers. The variety of colors and variants is endless. In adding a recently dug McMillan & Kester to my line up of "jakes", I noticed a difference in two early examples. Maybe I have just not paid enough attention, but in comparing two "variant 1" McMillan Kester's, there is a definite difference in embossing. I believe the earliest variant dates to around 1865 or so, and the lighter greenish aqua example clearly has larger embossing...especially of the "ESS". The neck is shorter and it also has a fat squatty top which appears to be earlier than the ice blue example. Their bases are identical, being flat with a tiny dot in the center. If you study the embossing, there are several additional

differences.
 I guess the learning never stops, and most likely I am the last to figure this out. Ever notice? DM

Sunday, May 3, 2015

Labeled California Wine Bitters over at Peachridge Glass


Interesting post over at Ferdinand Meyer's Peachridge Glass on  the Sainsevain Brothers, Mercado & Seully and other producers of the California Wine Bitters.

You can view the post here: http://www.peachridgeglass.com/2013/12/el-aliso-jean-louis-and-pierre-sainsevain-and-their-wine-bitters/


 

Wednesday, April 29, 2015

On ebay Right Now

 
Here's a gorgeous example of the  KELLY'S OLD CABIN BITTERS
listed on ebay right now
 
From the description it was found in" Mom's" closet
 
 
Right now the bids are over 10K and climbing
 
 
I sure never found anything like that in my Mom's closet!  - rs -

Tuesday, April 28, 2015

American Bottle Auction 61 Reviews

Here are two reviews of the latest American Bottle Auction #61
Bruce Silva's over at Western Whiskey Gazette
 
 
And American Bottle Auction's Jeff Wichmann's review
 
Interesting reading - rs -
 
 

Sunday, April 19, 2015

Fresh from the ground!

Found this beauty early this morning with my detector. The small catch had a whale oil lamp.(crunched) and this glob top Cartan & McCarthy Co. That was it....You know, it never gets old seeing a bottle come out of the ground .

                                                                 
                                                                  After a quick rinse

Friday, April 17, 2015

Just in from Chuck Erickson

I just received this mail from Chuck on another interesting find. 

Hi Rick -
Pulled this out of the ground last week - the bottle is whacked, but the label under glass is still pretty nice!
Thanks!

Chuck
 


A while back my digging buddy Vern and I dug a  Campe mini with full label and neck foil but I have never seen this back bar before.
Another nice find, seems like there have been some good digs this spring. Thanks Chuck!

Thursday, April 16, 2015

From Blake Peterson

This is a revised copy of the post that Blake Peterson sent to me a few days ago. I jumped the gun and posted the rough draft instead of the finished product. My apologies to Blake. He has added additional text and several pictures that I left out of the rough draft. Enjoy!


Lost In a Time Capsule for Over One Hundred & Forty Years

By Blake Peterson

 

In the early 1870’s, Eureka Nevada was growing towards what it was to become, another of Nevada’s great mining towns. The first smelting plant built in 1869, was a failure. But another, built in the 1870’s, was far more successful and the very forerunner of even more advanced methods. Soon, the nearby hillsides of Eureka ranked as Nevada's second-richest mineral producer (behind the Comstock Lode), particularly for lead, with small amounts of silver. By 1874, the population of Eureka was nearly 6,000 people.
 
 
On the morning of July 24th 1874, came a cloud burst that covered the entire canyons and mountains surrounding the town of Eureka. By mid afternoon, a tragic flood came down the canyon, destroying and carrying with it most all of the town’s buildings in the canyon bottom. Two years later on July 24th 1876, a second flood hit. Luckily, the town didn’t receive the extent of damage caused by the first flood.   https:// Eureka, Nevada: A Tragic Flood
 Eureka and the surrounding mining communities have seen more than their shares of bottle diggers. Both local residents and collectors from the surrounding western states have dug it hard since the 1950’s. Today, after all the years of digging, there is very little left that’s un-dug.

Some opportunities in life may present themselves but only once. This dig is possibly one of those. The property was temporarily vacant. The owner is a very close friend, and gave us permission to dig. And last, the fact that John, Phil, Dan and I were able to take time away from work to dig.
 
We spent nearly eight hours every day for a period of two weeks digging this lot. We were getting close to completing a thorough search of the property when, on a cold and windy April fool’s day, a cellar or possibly a basement was discovered. The room had been filled in level many decades ago and was discovered on the back corner of the lot near the creek channel. It was approximately ten feet wide, twelve feet long, and over eight feet deep. On the bottom was a hard silt layer over eighteen inches thick, which had washed in from the first flood. (Through-out the lower properties of town, It’s common to find a silt layer in all holes that were dug before the 1874 flood.) Above that was a sand and gravel layer from possibly the second flood, then rocks and filled material to the surface.
 There was very little trash in the fill to the surface of this cellar, just a few bottles and some trash from the mid-1870’s in the sand and gravel layer. But under the silt layer on the bottom contained the real treasure. Along the wall from a doorway that exited toward the creek to the North wall and across the floor toward the center, were full bottles and demijohns of wine and bitters laying on their sides. Many were side by side touching each other; others were up into the silt as if moved around by the turbulence of the flood waters.
 After being preserved in the silt of a cool cellar for over 140 years, we recovered six embossed Dr HENLEY’S WILD GRAPE ROOT IXL BITTERS bottles (variant 2 & 3), all with contents. Three IXL bottles are full up into the neck; the other four appear to have been opened with some contents removed, or possibly the cork failed and some contents escaped. . Four additional IXL’s weren’t so lucky and were broken under the weight of big rocks.
 Theirs was a lime green very crude un-embossed bottle with the same shape and size as an embossed IXL in the cellar, also corked with full contents up into the neck. I say was, because we cleaned & removed the cork, poured a few shots, and had a taste while dividing the bottles. It is very pleasant and flavorful. This bottle with contents has gotten a new cork and is being stored for future tasting, along with the wines and IXL bitters in a nice cool wine cellar.
There were a half dozen bottles of wine with full contents buried in the silt. The demijohns weren’t quite so fortunate—they were still corked but empty, and were cracked and broken in place. The silt which was set up hard as stiff clay, held the demijohn bottle together.
 
We recovered over five hundred intact bottles on this dig, with about two thirds of them being collectable bottles. Besides the bitters, there are whiskies, sodas, inks, patent medicines, pharmacy bottles, and food containers. Its fun to complete a dig and have enough quality bottles to see everyone involved walk away happy and content with their selection from the pick.
 
The green & empty IXL bottles on the left were dug separate from the cellar. In the next roe are the six from the cellar. From the left, between first & second IXL bottles with contents, in the third roe is the green un-embossed IXL shaped bottle with contents, along with the full wine bottles
Two IXL’s from the picture above after washing, picture taken in natural sunlight.
 
 

Thanks Blake for this fantastic post!


Monday, April 13, 2015

Sacramento FOHBC Expo 2016


I am currently assisting Richard Siri in booking seminars for the 2016 Federation of Historical Bottle Collectors (FOHBC) Expo which will be held in Sacramento on August 4-7. As show chairman, Richard has a huge task ahead of him, and I am hoping some of you will be able to help him, even in a small way. I am inviting anyone who has special knowledge of bottles and glass to participate in heading up a talk (we are calling them seminars) that may have interest to fellow collectors or students of glass. Many of you carry a vast amount of unique knowledge that could be lost forever, so now is your chance. I especially invite those of you whose interest is West Coast in nature. After all, this is a Western Region Expo and we need to show the rest of the country what we know about our own region. I don't mean to belittle subject matter that is not western in nature, as this is a national event, and all parts of the nation and world are invited to participate. I do believe that seminars are under-rated at bottle shows, and the annual Expo is really the best way - notwithstanding this excellent blog site, to communicate in such a great interactive environment.

Seminars could include showcasing bottles in your collection, either by example or photograph. One could simply talk about memorable digging events, either in photograph or tale. One could present a talk with a focus on one or a few businesses that used bottles. And, of course, one could showcase a particular class of bottles, such as ink, beer, soda, whiskey, etc. For those who have visited a number of glass or bottle displays, a talk about different museums and what they have to offer, would be a fascinating subject. Showing examples of bottle related paper items and advertising is always an interesting subject. Another idea could be an interactive discussion about a bottle related subject of your choosing, and you would simply be a facilitator. Or, just be creative. There are far more possibilities than I can think of.

I also believe that a full range, from academic to humorous should be offered. The FOHBC Board maintains the right to reject any seminar proposals that are not in keeping with their own values and what it perceives is best for the FOHBC, but I wouldn't expect people to get too crazy.

I hope you can all appreciate the value of having such an event here in California and I invite all of you to consider adding an interesting dimension to the Expo by giving a talk on a subject . There are only five spots left, so I suggest you respond in a timely manner.

Eric McGuire
Contact me by email at -  etmcguire (at) comcast.net

Tuesday, April 7, 2015

This Coming Weekend




Help Support Your Hobby by Attending the Local Bottle Shows
Gary, Darla and the gang at the Golden Gate Club put on a great show at the Antioch Fairgrounds
I hope to see you there! - rs -

Some Information on Henley's Eye Opener


Here's a recently discovered Dr. Henley's Eye Opener bottle with an almost intact original label
 
 
From what information I can gather from the labels the Eye Opener was a medicine NOT a bitters.
Interesting twist to what the Eye Opener bottle contained - rs -

Monday, April 6, 2015

A Recently Dug Flask

Here's a recently unearthed flask that I have never seen.
 

Interesting sharp embossing that doesn't look western
 
 
It has somewhat of a flat base
 
 
And a short neck with a funky top
I am not sure but from the embossing and the neck and top treatment this looks like a bottle from Canada to me.
Anyone have any info on this flask? - rs -

Wednesday, April 1, 2015

The Sole Agent Jesse Moore will be the whiskey used in the shoot out.It got the most votes . The U.S.A. Hosp. Dept. quart any mold variant will be the non bitters contestant that will bring out some from the East coast collectors . The bitters still is up in the air a lot of folks suggested Hostetter's .God knows there are lots of those out there . Any other thoughts on the Bitters ? Remeber it should include Eastern Collectors . The Northwest Bottle Club (Santa Rosa ) would bring the gazebo display that was at Reno . At Reno it was hard to keep it full because a lot of folks didn't want to put their prized bottle in it . So how about putting in it unembossed bottles ? Can be any size , shape or color. .All collectors have their favorite window bottles .It would make for a good display and promote bottle in general

Sunday, March 29, 2015

Another Recent Find

 
 
 

Here's a couple of pictures of a recent find from an anonymous email I received this morning. Is that what I think it is?


Yep, it sure is! A crown shoulder J.H. Cutter fifth!
 
Super find from a Top Secret Digger. Love these anonymous emails with your recent finds. Keep digging! - rs -



WHOA!.............Make that two Crown Shoulder Cutter's in this pit.... DOUBLE the fun!
 

Monday, March 23, 2015

Yummy Medicine

 I am sure every collector has paused at some of the wild names early patent medicines used to lure the sick in to purchasing their products. King of Pain, Last Chance Liniment, Oil of Gladness, Royal Balsam, Blood Purifier, etc...the list of crazy brands is endless. Here is one fresh from the ground that takes the cake in my opinion. "Essence of Pancreas"???? Really? I would much rather consume essence of Jamaica Ginger any day! This is an 1880s medicine that I have never seen before. I understand it was from New York and I would be surprised if anyone was attracted to it's delicious name. My wife is trying to get me to take omega fish oil every day and it is disgusting. Better than this however.

 How about posting your most wild named patent medicine? I see that there are virtually no active posters lately but it would be fun to see some other crazy meds. DM

Friday, March 20, 2015

From Dale and Barbara Santos

Hi Rick,
hope you and Cherry are doing well. I wanted to share with you a photo of a very unique demijohn that I acquired, I believe it is of Western origin, orange amber in color,18 plus inches in height,


it has air vent bumps on the base and sides ( dimples ) and a seal ! The seal appears to have an image of the
 
 
American Flag, it is embossed R & D and under that it looks like it says March, wanted to share it with you,
kind regards, Dale and Barbara Santos
 
 Dale and Barbara collect demijohns and early American flasks and it is always nice to hear from them and post their new finds. I can't recall ever seeing a demijohn with a seal on the top
- rs -


Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Western flasks

Here are two recently dug western flasks that came out of the same pit. As you can see both flasks are from the same mold but have different top treatments.


The flask on the left has a double roll collar and the example on the right a single roll collar
 
 
 
Both flasks came out of the same glass house but may have been finished by different workmen.
Even though the top treatments are interesting what really caught my eye were the bases of the flasks
 
 
 
Yep....they both have the "western" star and both flasks do have some ground stain.
Sparkling out of the ground western glass....Nope!
Western blown....Yep!
 
Anyone out there have any star base flasks?
rs
 
 

Tuesday, March 17, 2015

Another Ferro Quina Bitters Surfaces

As you would expect after a Ferro Quina Bitters sold on ebay for over 2K up jumps another.
 
 
This new example has a "buy it now" option for over 2K
 
 
Hmm.... Don't think I will be the one throwing 2500 at a cracked bottle
rs

Post script to this post...The buy it now price on this bottle was lowered several times from the original asking price down to 1250. Later the same day the auction was ended without any info on why. I don't know if the bottle was purchased or the seller just pulled the listing after receiving several emails from some prominent western collectors straightening him out of the value of damaged bottles. Your guess is as good as mine...........

Post Post Script.......Looks like this bottle is back online for a buy it now price. The listing is HERE

Sunday, March 15, 2015

A Recent Acquisition

Hi, Rick,

Here is the scoop!  Bottle find in Northern California in a consignment shop.  Bottle was obviously dug recently.  There was still dirt in the neck which had not been cleaned out! The digger (unknown) consigned the lady's leg fifth and was described as a young man.  I'm pretty sure he had no idea of the importance of the find, or it's value.
 
 

I have dug bottles for over 40 years and never ever as much as seen broken pieces of a Mills Bitters. I'm still pinching myself to have a nice find as this on my shelf!  Hope this poor person,  that gave away this mills,  soon joins a bottle club and learns about western bitters.  Wilsons' book places  this bitters as made in 1874. The bottle shows very little staining and will remain as found.Further research indicates the most specimens being found are in  Arizona and all are in need of professional cleaning.  Only  a few Mills Bitters have been dug in California.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Western Ferro Quina Bitters on ebay

A rare variant of the Ferro Quina bitters that just ended on ebay literally just about broke the bank.
 
 
Two or three bidders were slugging it out to put this possible unique bottle on their shelf.
 
 
When the dust settled the winning bidder shelled out over  2K for this rare bottle